2010-02-27 [~Crimson Angel~]: *twitch* DRAGONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2010-02-27 [The Dizzy Raven]: Thank you!!! I'm reworking this place to make it more appealing (interesting) for others to enjoy. so if you have any comments/questions/suggestions, please feel free to ask! either that or go to Dragons Club Suggestions.

All dragon fans are free to join without permission! :) don't forget to read the rules before hand

2010-02-27 [Mrs Vicious.]: oohhhh I wanna join!!! the RP sounds like it could be amazing.

2010-02-27 [The Dizzy Raven]: :) you can ^_^

2010-02-27 [Mrs Vicious.]: woots!

2010-02-27 [The Dizzy Raven]: hehe :D

2010-02-28 [~Crimson Angel~]: How about a banner contest?

2010-03-01 [The Dizzy Raven]: I was thinking about doing that actually. sounds like a good idea then. So, give me some time to set that up

2010-03-02 [Chaotix Palidien]: im owened :D

2010-03-18 [The Dizzy Raven]: what do you guys think? should I stick with the new designs and make more? or make new designs?

2010-03-18 [The Dizzy Raven]: btw the skull dividers are only temporary

2010-03-18 [The Dizzy Raven]:

2010-03-18 [Mrs Vicious.]: i dont think the skull dividers are a good idea, its just too much of the same thing, the main logo and the banner bit is okies at the top.

2010-03-18 [The Dizzy Raven]: very true, but it's also only temporary until I make something new :). right now I have no photoshop available because it's at's school and I'm on break.

2010-03-18 [The Dizzy Raven]: I'm kind of stuck with nothing more than what i have until school starts again :(

2010-03-19 [*Phoenix*]: EEPP! Skulls!

*cowards in corner*

2010-03-19 [Draymond]: ...I was going to say...are we piratey dragons?

Although Malestrom may look dashing with a eyepatch.  ^.~

2010-03-19 [Alexi Ice]: Pirate dragons would be KICK ass

2010-03-19 [The Dizzy Raven]: no kidding, right? I love pirate dragons! ARGH!

2010-03-19 [Draconas Lyrr]: Pirates smell bad. o.o

2010-03-19 [Alexi Ice]: Hahaha. Ok i'll give u that but they are kickass!

2010-03-20 [The Dizzy Raven]: ^_^

2010-03-23 [Draconas Lyrr]: I like knights, personally. The medieval era is the only part of history that ever interested me. I find Asian culture interesting, but it is so over-rated. I never really cared for pirates because of the lying, cheating, stealing, raping, etc.

Although, speaking objectively, I do think that a pirate would beat a ninja in one-on-one combat assuming the ninja didn't sneak up on the pirate in his sleep. After all, pirates are dirty (pun intended :P) fighters who had guns and no fear. =/ Cervantes is still one of my least favorite on Soul Calibur, easily one of the cheapest characters. :P

2010-03-23 [The Dizzy Raven]: hm... truthfully, i have to agree. He is right. :)

2010-03-24 [Draconas Lyrr]: ^_^ Off to chemistry! x.x

2010-03-24 [Mrs Vicious.]: spongy mesophyll!

2010-04-16 [Alexi Ice]: Oh wow! Banner is sooooooooo pretty!!

2010-04-16 [The Dizzy Raven]: thanks :) ^_^ spankin brand new

2010-04-16 [The Dizzy Raven]: Give me some time to make appropriate graphics :)
I'm making some new stuff because I'm not liking my old stuff too well. If it was a pirate dragon wiki, these would be fine, but this is a general (all dragon kinds) wiki. :)

2010-04-16 [The Dizzy Raven]: ok guys. we're going to take a vote. :)
Here's the question:

Should I make a wiki for this page for dragon interaction? like a dragon world?

2010-04-19 [Draymond]: I vote in favor!

Sweet banners!

2010-04-19 [The Dizzy Raven]: thanks :)

2010-04-19 [The Dizzy Raven]: ok that's two :)

2010-04-20 [*Phoenix*]: hmm. Depends on what would be going on...

2010-04-20 [The Dizzy Raven]: exactly :)
it would be pg-13 at least, but if there was to be babymaking...well.... it would have to be skipped. then the laying eggs part. lmao

2010-04-20 [Draymond]: XD Right to the point, eh? XD Yay for timeskips! They are our friends.

2010-04-20 [The Dizzy Raven]: lmao. indeed XD

2010-04-20 [Mrs Vicious.]: Dragon nuckie would be hard to nigotiate.

2010-04-20 [The Dizzy Raven]: lmao

2010-05-03 [The Dizzy Raven]: Anywho, how is everyone?

2010-05-03 [Mrs Vicious.]: im gooooood.

2010-05-03 [The Dizzy Raven]: good :D

2010-05-03 [Mrs Vicious.]: yeeaaah.

2010-05-03 [The Dizzy Raven]: YYYYYYEEEEEAAAAHHHHH lol

2010-05-03 [Mrs Vicious.]: CHREEAAAH!

2010-05-03 [The Dizzy Raven]: :D

2010-05-03 [Mrs Vicious.]: how are you hun?

2010-05-03 [The Dizzy Raven]: I'm great. thanks :) u?

2010-05-03 [Mrs Vicious.]: im good, a lil tierd, but good.

2010-05-03 [The Dizzy Raven]: that's good :)

2010-05-19 [Draymond]: Vote is still active for dragon world rp! LoL Cast your votes, everyone!

2010-05-19 [The Dizzy Raven]: give it some more time. not many people are active on here. I think it's time to start inviting people again who aren't yet on the list of current members.

2010-05-19 [Draymond]: Probably. Its always good to have fresh people anyways! And the more the merrier as well!

2010-05-19 [Mrs Vicious.]: the whole dragon land thing?

2010-11-13 [The Dizzy Raven]: Hm... this has been quiet for a while. I want to get this active again

2010-11-13 [Zab]: How do you plan on doing that?

2010-11-14 [The Dizzy Raven]: Well, hopefully invitations will work, plus the art contest. I've had it in wiki nominations for a long time, but I think it was declined because of how inactive it's been lately. idk.
but I'm going to do my best because this was one of my favorite wikis I made.

2010-11-16 [Eyonic]: zomg never again will i look to see how many dragons I've done..

2010-11-16 [The Dizzy Raven]: XD lol ^^

2010-11-17 [yamisango]: wow that picture look good.

2010-11-18 [Eyonic]: o.O really? I just threw them on there..

2010-11-18 [yamisango]: i like it. i simply love dragons.

2010-11-18 [Zab]: Btw, does this count as a dragon? I know it's rather hairy, but there can be hairy dragons too, right?

I figure he's bred by people to get his hairy look, just like you breed dogs to get naked.. >_> It's originally a dragon living in the chilliest parts of the world and they had a few, long hairs attatched to every scale. But then people tamed them and bred a type with much more, softer fur. They can breathe fire, but are less prone to do it because of their fur coat. They still have scales under it to protect them, but they'll lose the warmth of the coat if they accidentally lit themselves on fire. The noseband is there to make sure they won't harm any people though.. they're not very trusted.. :(

2010-11-18 [The Dizzy Raven]: yeah, that should count :)

2011-01-25 [The Dizzy Raven]: I REALLY need to redo this page for the new year? What do you guys think? I might even need to develop contests.

2011-01-28 [Draymond]: I second the motion!

2011-01-28 [The Dizzy Raven]: :D yay!

2011-01-28 [The Dizzy Raven]: ok then! Time for a REVAMP! Going to do that today until my dad picks me up around 5pm Eastern time :D

2011-01-28 [The Dizzy Raven]: almost done :) I just need to create dividers and headings for the other sections

2011-04-27 [Rice]: YAY! This has become our featured wiki of the week. :D

2011-04-27 [Avaz]: Congrats on getting featured. You just got a new watcher. :)

2011-04-28 [Alexi Ice]: Congrats on the feature! This page is amazing <3

2011-04-28 [The Last Dragoon]: agreed ^>^

2011-04-28 [The Dizzy Raven]: oh wow!!! :D thank you!!! ^_^ *hugs*
Wow! Thanks so much, Akane :D I've been wanting to get this wiki more active, too. and the feature really helps! Thank you!!! And thanks, Avaz and Rice!! Wow!! ^_^

2011-04-28 [Eyonic]: :D

2011-04-29 [Alexi Ice]: *Is now stalking the page* hehehe

2011-04-29 [The Last Dragoon]: ^>^:

2011-04-30 [The Dizzy Raven]: Awz :3 Yay!

2011-05-01 [Sagacious Turkey]: Yo, yo!

2011-05-01 [The Dizzy Raven]: Hi! *wave*

2011-07-16 [Demonicor]: oh goodness gracious, I've been out of the loop for so long

2011-07-16 [Eyonic]: oh yes very muchly so!

2011-07-17 [The Dizzy Raven]: :) Hi guys! *wave* ^_^

I'm going to start making graphics with transparent background for the group.

2011-07-17 [Danboo]: sweet

2011-07-17 [The Dizzy Raven]: :)

2011-07-18 [Eyonic]: how does one make these transparent images???

2011-07-18 [The Dizzy Raven]: I start with a white back ground, but then I click "new layer" and I hit transparent. And you have use make it a PNG file

2011-07-19 [Eyonic]: hmm i will try

2011-07-19 [The Dizzy Raven]: :) Let me know if it works out ^^

2011-07-19 [Eyonic]: omg! it works! so happy-face

2011-07-19 [The Dizzy Raven]: :D yay! ^_^

2011-07-23 [Eyonic]: ooo

2011-07-23 [The Dizzy Raven]: :3

2012-11-02 [Demonicor]: Yet another page that has not seen use in over a year... I think Elftown needs a good old fashioned revitalization.

2012-11-02 [The Dizzy Raven]: yeah I'm thinking so too :/

2012-11-02 [The Last Dragoon]: indeed

2012-11-03 [The Dizzy Raven]: I want to get this page busy again, however, not many people get on this website like they used to :/

2012-11-03 [Danboo]: Yes i agree, the website is what need attention, the wiki's suffer from the lack of attention as a whole website.

2012-11-03 [Eyonic]: i still do :D but yeah a lot of my friends dont come on anymore

2012-11-04 [The Dizzy Raven]: Agreed :/ I've been part of the website for years. I miss how busy it used to be

2012-11-04 [Danboo]: Yes.. its a shame.. i wonder why it has deteriorated like it has and what would bring a revival?

2012-11-05 [The Last Dragoon]: too much Facebook, not enough ET?

2012-11-06 [Eyonic]: god facebook is annoying -.-

2012-11-06 [Paul Doyle]: I honestly believe that that whose who run this website, are not especially interested in updating and revitalizing this place. They seem very reluctant to make it at least somewhat resemble a modern website. I get the impression they feel this website is an energy-draining hassle, and they are content to let it die a painstakingly slow death.

2012-11-06 [Nocturnaliss]: Kind of agree with Paul... you really do get that vibe that the higher-up(s) simply don't care in the least about what happens with ET.

2012-11-07 [Alexi Ice]: The trolls kill ET faster than anything. Without new members no amount of revamping of the site will revitalize it as a lot of members have moved on. If you have a good idea about revamping tell the council and see if you can help with something. I'm mostly only here once or twice a month myself.

2012-11-07 [Paul Doyle]: *chuckle*
Alexi, they've belittled me or ignored me for nine and a half years. Why the hell should I do any more brainstorming for a place that has (historically, though not so much anymore) demonstrated that it frankly doesn't give a shit what anybody outside a few select people think?

I used to waste hours of my time thinking of ways Elftown could be so much better. Thankfully, I knew where to stop, unlike Artsieladie for example. (There's a cautionary tale for people . . . )

Let me know when this place is fully upgraded, renovated and revitalized. I won't hold my breath. Since 2004/05, this website has gone from being a troll-and-Myspacer-pandering travesty of its original intent, to being a ghost town that nobody wants to preserve. If it will ever be permanently closed down at some point, please give us all ample notice so we can salvage and preserve all that we have contributed over the years.

2012-11-07 [Danboo]: I remember that name, though i can't recall what Artsieladie did.

2012-11-14 [Nocturnaliss]: Short, mean version: go batshit crazy and raising holy hell (from what little I gathered). Which is a shame, really, because she did seem like a nice person, at first. It took a bit of talking to her to start asking yourself questions.

2012-11-16 [Eyonic]: that is definitely the shortest version I've ever seen o.o

2012-11-16 [The Dizzy Raven]: yeah... artsie lady did seem nice until crap happened :/

If they don't care about the site, why don't they just give it to someone who can take care of it better? :/

2012-11-19 [Nocturnaliss]: I'm good at short versions ;)

As for giving the site over... I'm thinking it can be explained thusly: would you give your baby to someone else for them to raise ? Or, in artist terms: give over the characters and worlds within your mind to someone else to do with as they please ?

2012-11-24 [Demonicor]: If I thought one of my characters was going unused, simply deteriorating within my mind, and someone was willing to give them life again, I would, because it's a horrible feeling to look back trying to find a character you once knew, and finding nothing but a shell.

2012-11-25 [Nocturnaliss]: See, I personally couldn't do so. I'm overly attached to all those characters, and the idea of someone taking over and possibly altering their essence... it scares the crap out of me. The difference, of course, is that I have no deteriorating characters... they're all a part of me, and all keep living.

I don't know how much this still relates to the previous analogy, but oh well. XD

2013-03-01 [Zab]: I like ET as it is... even though I rarely visit... which is mostly because my friends left..I don't rp anymore and simply don't have anything much to do here.. and my interests changed some.

The problem as I see it is that Facebook and other sites got more popular. Would I like to see ET made into a facebook-town? No.. I use Facebook for facebooking. I want ET for.. being ET?

2013-03-01 [Nocturnaliss]: Question is: what is Elftown ? What is its goal, its purpose ? I bet no one can answer that.

2013-03-24 [Demonicor]: Its original goal, as I saw it, was an advance community for the artists from elfwood to gather. It became something more of a haven and second home for those who came here. And then something changed, or maybe it was that nothing changed at all, and it stopped feeling like home.

2013-03-25 [The Dizzy Raven]: it just kinda died :/

2013-03-26 [Nocturnaliss]: I think the fact there's been 23 days between my post, and you guys', just proves Mukki right.

2013-03-27 [Eyonic]: yeah, just kinda

2013-03-28 [The Dizzy Raven]: See? lol Sometimes I feel like I'm one of the very few people on here anymore lol. and since I was on here for a very long time, it also makes me feel like an "old fart elftowner"

2013-03-29 [Nocturnaliss]: I second that. Being 32 also adds to the oh-gods-I'm-so-old-why-me-omg feeling. XD

2013-03-30 [Eyonic]: 3rd lol. been here for a few years myself

2013-03-31 [Nocturnaliss]: I was curious and checked: Eyonic, 2004; Mukki, 2005; myself, 2003. ... we really are old fart elftowners. XD

2013-03-31 [Avaz]: Better not check mine. :P

2013-04-01 [The Dizzy Raven]: LOL

2013-04-01 [Eyonic]: :P

2013-04-01 [Nocturnaliss]: Wow. Even longer here than I am XD man, what happened to this place in these 10 years.

2013-04-27 [Demonicor]: Lol, yeah, old elftownies, it's a shame that things seem to happen to draw people away from it.

2013-04-30 [The Dizzy Raven]: yeah :/

2013-04-30 [Nocturnaliss]: (or rather, no-things are happening. <<)

2013-05-22 [Demonicor]: Well, see, we're all kinda only halfassed trying (myself included), theres just not much to really look up to on here anymore. When the people you come here to see seem to melt away as you try to grasp their attention, everything just falls apart.

2013-05-22 [Eyonic]: it's so hard to find people to talk to on here :( most of my old friends have been gone for over a year. and then, when you see one thats been gone for 4 days, you hope they'll respond but in truth you just missed them and they arent coming back >.<

2013-05-27 [Nocturnaliss]: (and I've just been away for four days, apparently...)

Seriously though, that's quite right: there's nothing to look up to here. You're better off on DA to have contact with likeminded people, or FB... this place here was supposed to be a community, and it's anything but (save for the few of us who keep coming back like a moth to a flame).

2013-05-27 [The Dizzy Raven]: Agreed :( We keep trying but to no avail. They can't even keep up with the member, poetry, and art features -_-

2013-05-29 [Nocturnaliss]: I noticed. They must've given up, themselves. I mean, if nobody's given the tools to imrove ET, then it's just doomed to die. I still think that's a damn shame.

2013-05-29 [The Dizzy Raven]: Yeah :/

2013-05-30 [Nocturnaliss]: If it keeps going that way, I think I'll eventually stop coming, too. I follow most people on here on DA as well. There's just... no future whatsoever for Elftown, is there.

2013-05-30 [Avaz]: There are some of us that have been discussing a way to redesign the site and reenergize the userbase. But it's still in the planning stages.

2013-05-30 [Nocturnaliss]: Do you need extra help ? Because I'd rather be useful than moan about ET's death.

2013-05-30 [The Dizzy Raven]: Yeah :/ I'd like to help too

2013-06-26 [Demonicor]: And then, a month passes, like the moon that follows in its shadow, darkening for a bit then brightening as the changing phases do. Here we sit, upon the doorstep of dragons and other beasts of the mind, do we dare enter or shy away in hope they see us not. I join them, as one, for I am changing, much as the moon is, ever different yet always the same, shapechanger of mind and body, but never of the heart.

2013-06-26 [Nocturnaliss]: *applauds*

2013-06-26 [Demonicor]: *bows with a flourish*

2013-06-29 [The Dizzy Raven]: *whistles*

2013-07-01 [Avaz]: *plays a trombone*

2013-07-01 [Demonicor]: I'm trying to throw myself at the towering walls of hopelessness people seem to think exists here. I will succeed at tearing it down even if I'm only armed with a putty knife! ^.^

2013-07-01 [Avaz]: *plays some more trombone*

2013-07-01 [Nocturnaliss]: *pulls out spork* let's do this X3

2013-07-01 [Demonicor]: *glee's and runs at the wall, his putty knife held high, yelling out a well enough fitting battlecry* For The Dragonborn!

2013-07-01 [Nocturnaliss]: *roars with the spork held aloft, then jumps ninja-style at the wall* For the Love of Lettuce!!!

2013-07-01 [Demonicor]: *stabs at the wall, bending and denting his putty knife somewhat as he jabs repeatedly for the cracks*

2013-07-02 [The Dizzy Raven]: pptptpththttt.... lol

2013-07-03 [Nocturnaliss]: *sporks out the bricks with the might of the EverHungry. Turns out the wall's made of gingerbread* :D

2013-07-04 [Demonicor]: *throws away his putty knife, instead pulling out a frosing spreader and a can of cream cheese frosting, taking a scoop and holding it up high* Who's with me! For honor! For Confection!

2013-07-04 [Nocturnaliss]: For the Gods of Cookies and Ice Cream! *holds up spork like a victory flag*

2013-07-04 [The Dizzy Raven]: I like cheese

2013-07-04 [Demonicor]: *stops and blinks a moment* Wait... We have dragons, lets broil this Gingerwall! *he pulls out a block of cheddar and flips it through the air to Mukki*

2013-07-05 [Nocturnaliss]: Go Mukki go! Crush the wally resistaaaaaaaaaance!!!!!!

2013-07-09 [The Dizzy Raven]: *catches it and eats it fast like a pro* NOM!!!!!!

2013-07-09 [Demonicor]: *summons forth Alatárië, the Angel Dragon, who proceeds to... pounce and nom on the gingerwall, as Demonicor proceeds to just sit back with a look of amused confusion on his face*

2013-07-09 [The Dizzy Raven]: * continues to be fascinated by the piece of cheese...*

2013-10-29 [The Dizzy Raven]: .>

2013-10-29 [yamisango]: u all are so funny

2013-10-29 [Koho Ai]: *Walks up to the Gingerwall and shoves a live grenade into it* That should do it *walks away*

2013-10-29 [The Dizzy Raven]: indeed

2013-10-30 [yamisango]: *watches with interest*

2013-10-30 [Avaz]: *Interest does not want to watch with yamisango. Interest walks away to do something else*

2013-10-30 [The Last Dragoon]: *sits next to yamisango and offers her some popcorn*

2013-11-06 [yamisango]: *eats some happily*

2013-11-10 [Eyonic]: ello

2013-11-10 [The Dizzy Raven]: yo :D

2013-11-10 [Eyonic]: how are things going?

2013-11-11 [The Dizzy Raven]: pretty good. thanks :) You?

2013-11-11 [Eyonic]: could be better, could be worse

2013-11-11 [The Dizzy Raven]: ^_^

2013-12-10 [Demonicor]: A friend of mine has a saying

"Cheese for Everyone!"

I think it's her campaign slogan.

2013-12-10 [The Dizzy Raven]: lol

2013-12-12 [Eyonic]: hehe good one

2015-08-10 [The Dizzy Raven]: *pokes everyone*

2015-08-10 [Zab]: Eeep!

2015-08-10 [The Dizzy Raven]: lol Why, Hello, Zab! How are you?

2015-08-10 [The Dizzy Raven]: This place needs some serious re-decorating *plots*

2015-08-10 [Zab]: hhaha, yeah, it could use something..hmmm....

2015-08-10 [The Dizzy Raven]: I think I can plan a few things for it this week or the next

2015-08-10 [Zab]: What sort of things do you have in mind?

2015-08-10 [The Dizzy Raven]: I plan on making some new dragon graphics for the page. The old ones don't cut it anymore. lol

A new welcome header, dividers, and etc. Won't take me long

2015-08-10 [Zab]: Will be fun to see :)

2015-08-10 [The Dizzy Raven]: Now I just need to make some graphics :)
and maybe a nicer looking banner in the future when the graphics are done

2015-08-10 [Zab]: Looking nice :)
Is that a python for referense? I used to have one..

2015-08-10 [The Dizzy Raven]: Thanks! :) and yeah
I used my ball python Alexander

2015-08-10 [Zab]: Nice :) Interesting too.

2015-08-10 [The Dizzy Raven]: Thank you ^_^

2015-09-22 [Sagacious Turkey]: You're welcome!

2015-09-22 [The Dizzy Raven]: lol Hello, Turkey

2020-08-21 [Nocturnaliss]: Holy crap this is old. Just checking all my notifications. XD

2020-08-22 [The Dizzy Raven]: lmao xD Yes, so very old

2020-08-22 [The Dizzy Raven]: Oldest comments are LITERALLY 5 years old. Look at those dates man xD

2020-08-22 [Nocturnaliss]: That's how I realized I'd been here five years ago. I thought it was ten or so, but nope. Five years. Feels like FOREVER ago, man. XD

2020-08-25 [The Dizzy Raven]: LOL!!!!!